HomeMy WebLinkAboutJanuary 27, 1999 - Public MUNICIPALITY OF BAYHAM
PUBLIC MEETING
CONCERNING
SEWAGE STUDY FOR THE VILLAGE OF VIENNA
AND THE
HAMLETS OF STRAFFORDVILLE & EDEN
Wednesday, January 27, 1999
8:00 p.m.
BAYHAM COMMUNITY CENTRE
STRAFFORDVILLE
A Final Public Meeting was held at the Bayham Community Centre in Straffordville,
under the Class Environmental Assessments for Vienna, Straffordville and Eden Sanitary
Sewage Projects.
The meeting was chaired by Bob Vallee. Present were Mayor Max Stewart, Deputy
Mayor Jack Petrie, Councillors David Mason, John Nezezon, and Cliff Evanitski,
Administrator/Treasurer Lynn S. Buchner, and Clerk Lynda Millard.
Approximately 145 residents were in attendance.
1. Call to Order— Chairman Bob Vallee
Chairman Bob Vallee called the meeting to order at 8:00 p.m., and welcomed
those present.
2. Opening Remarks —Bob Vallee
Mr. Vallee explained the format the meeting would follow, and that a time for
questions and answers would take place after the presentations.
3. Introductions
Mr. Vallee introduced Consulting Engineer, Cyril J. Demeyere, Senior Project
Manager, Andy Valickis, Acres & Asssociated Environmental Limited, Geoff R.
Burn and Bob Wilcox, and representatives of the Ministry of the Environment,
Rod Baird, Ontario Clean Water Agency, Phyl Pressey and the Elgin-St. Thomas
Health Unit, George Dawson.
4. Presentation by Andy Valickis, P. Eng., Senior Project Manager,
Ontario Clean Water Agency
Andy Valickis advised that this meeting was being held as Council of the
Municipality of Bayham had promised at the previous public meeting held in
August, 1998. He advised that funding approval had been granted under the
Provincial Water Protection Fund for the proposed sewer projects only. More
detailed cost estimates were reflected in the handouts given to those in attendance.
He requested that the comment sheets be completed by those objecting to, and
those in support of the projects, and submitted to the municipal office by noon
February 1, 1999.
Presentation by Cyril J. Demeyere, P. Eng., Cyril J. Demeyere
Limited, Consulting Engineers
Cyril J. Demeyere summarized the construction and administrative costs as
outlined in the Vienna, Straffordville and Eden Sewage Projects handout, and
explained the proposed method of allocating the costs per household through (1)
Frontage charges, (2)Annual taxes, and(3) Service charges, summarizing the
totals for each project based on 4 different scenarios of repayment.
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4. Presentation by Geoff R. Burn, Manager Municipal
Infrastructure Division, Acres & Associated Environmental
Limited
Geoff Burn explained the requirement to expand the Port Burwell Sewage
Treatment Plant to accommodate the additional flows. The treatment would be
changed from the present standard activated sludge process to a sequencing batch
reactor(SBR)process.
5. Question and Answer Period
Mr. Vallee opened the floor to questions,stating that anyone wishing to ask a
question,proceed to the audience microphone,state name and direct the
question to a specific representative in attendance.
Q. Florence Ferris—Why should Vienna residents share in the cost of the
forcemain from Eden and Straffordville?
A. Cyril Demeyere—Sewage will be gathered locally by gravity and
pumped from Eden to Straffordville, to Vienna and then to the sewage treatment
plant in Port Burwell.
Andy Valickis—All forcemain costs are incorporated and all pay equally
Q. Ray Maddox—A Bump-up request has been submitted which requires
that names be posted. No Notice has been received, why?
A. Andy Valickis - When a Bump-up is submitted to the Minister of the
Environment it goes to the Environmental Assessment Branch then to a reviewer
who talks to those making the application and also to the municipality. Points are
clarified, information sought if required, and the reviewer makes a
recommendation to the Minister, who will then in turn notify both parties of the
decision. A verbal rresponse had been received, stating that the Bump-up request
would not be approved. Nothing has been yet received in writing.
Q. Ray Maddox--Not having received the notice promised,many of us had
to come unprepared for this meeting.
A. Andy Valickis -None of us here are involved in the Bump-up process.
Q. Ray Maddox—Why were households in Eden, Straffordville and Vienna
only checked. If testing was done in Corinth, Richmond and Calton the
problem would likely be determined to be more widespread.
A. Andy Valickis—If there are problems in other areas they should be
looked into. Further expansion of the STP for use by additional
communities could be made if needed. Cost for including the whole
municipality would be multiplied greatly. A grant has been approved for
the three mentioned.
Q. Wade Spitzke—If the grant is refused will we incur greater costs down
the road? Interest at 8 % seems to be high. Will developers pay 100 % of
all servicing?
A. Andy Valickis—If the grant is passed up, 100 % of costs will be borne by
some individual property owner who will be required to meet specific
standards. Interest rates are just estimated. It is hoped actual numbers
will be lower.
Rod Baird—If nothing is done,the problems are still here. Septic
systems are now the responsibility of the Municipality. MOE and the
Health Unit would require that the Building Code be enforced in the fixing
of faulty septic systems. It would be necessary to know the impact on
ground water and the concern for water quality safety would require
sampling. In regard to a lack of response to the Bump-up request, the
Minister should be called tomorrow. It's his decision and his time.
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5. Question and Answer Period (continued)
Q. Leo Pacquett—There appears to be ground water testing/monitoring
regularly in Port Burwell.
Q. Valerie Donnell—Why is it required that the existing outfall of the
Sewage Treatment Plant must be reviewed.
A. Andy Valickis—It was indicated that when the plant was originally
constructed the outfall pipe was to have been put out past the sandbar in
the lake a considerable distance. In 1972 concession was made, for cost-
cutting purposes, for discharge to be allowed near the mouth of the creek.
It is required to report on this rationale, and files are being pulled and
reviewed to determine necessity of modifications to the outfall.
Q. Valerie Donnell—Won't this cost more?
A. Andy Valickis--Maybe, small modifications to the type of discharge will
be required. With the new type of plant upgrade, loadings will be cut in
half and impact will not increase. Formal submission is to be made.
Q. Donna Nevill—If a sewage system is put in how long will it take to
remove the freeze on development as a result of poor quality drinking
water?
A. Rod Baird—The freeze would remain in place, and depends on the levels
of nitrates in samples which would be required to be still taken by the
municipality. Rain speeds up the process. There is no definite time as
many factors contribute to reduction.
Andy Valickis— Sampling results would have to be provided indicating
that the water is safe. Improvement is anticipated in a few years.
Q. Thousands of gallons of raw sewage are being dumped into streams north
of Tillsonburg. What about user pay?
Q. George Allen—Nitrates caused by faulty septics in the 1960's were
confirmed by the Health Unit to be in sewage from Vienna. Beaches were
posted because of ecoli not nitrates. I am puzzled by the same situation
results in Eden and Straffordville.
A. Andy Valickis— Septic malfunction in Vienna resulted in discharge into
the Otter causing direct ecoli loading on the stream. Straffordville and
Eden do not have a stream to load. It was noted in 1972 that Vienna had a
problem then.
Q. George Allen repeated question.
A. Bob Wilcox--Ecoli don't survive in a tile fieldbed. They must be
discharged directly into the stream by animal/human discharge of waste.
Due to proximity of Vienna to Port Burwell they would not be dispersed.
The more serious disease bacteria are easiest to find.
Q. George Allen—Is there no ecoli present in Eden or Straffordville water?
A. Bob Wilcox—Yes, but the situation is different in that wells can be
chlorinated to eliminate the ecoli.
Cyril Demeyere—Eden has a bacteria problem, 39.6 % of wells tested
exceeded limits and 21 wells were unsafe for drinking. Letters were sent
and each owner knows own results.
Q. George Allen—Why would a sewage system be put in when water is
needed?
A. Andy Valickis—This was a Ministry decision that sewage is the main
problem, supporting funding to eliminate this. Other water related
symptoms will then be reduced.
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5. Question and Answer Period (continued)
Q. Hilary Roose—Installation of a sewage system will enhance property
values. What happens to existing septic systems?
A. Andy Valickis—Septics will be disconnected,tanks drained and filled
with sand. It is not necessary to remove the tanks.
Q. Ray Maddox—There is a lake of water under hamlets, isn't it possible
that the contamination is coming from other areas? Other areas would
likely have a problem if tested,why not check the whole municipality?
We're all being painted with the same brush.
A. Bob Wilcox—Don't confuse ecoli with nitrates. Ecoli can be treated with
chlorine, nitrates need to be flushed.
Q. Allen Spicer—There's only one taxpayer, why should $14m be spent in a
rural municipality when there's new technology available to fix up
individual systems.
A. Rod Baird—Many lots are too small to accommodate individual fixes. A
communal system is the solution for betterment of the whole community.
Growth areas were surveyed. Other problem areas may be looked at.
Study grants are still available.
Q. Pat Cole—What's this requirement that if a sewage system is installed but
the problem is not fixed,the grant money has to be paid back?
A. Andy Valickis—A requirement of the Provincial Water Protection Fund
that grant monies be returned if the problem is not fixed is intended to
eliminate private or partial fix-ups that are not proven. A Sewage
Treatment Plant and communal system will solve the problem 100%.
Rod Baird—The three problems are: (1) sewage in Vienna ponding on
the ground and entering the Otter Creek; (2) sewage in wells in Eden; (3)
nitrates from septics and agriculture in Straffordville wells.
Q. Ross Thurston—Not all septic systems are contaminating the creek.
Why do all of us need to pay?
A. Rod Baird—Not all septics in Vienna are faulty, not all wells are high in
nitrates.
Q. Wouldn't water be needed after sewers installed?
Q. Valerie Donnell—Would this clean up the ecoli problem?Does the
project guarantee a 100% cleanup of wells?
A. Andy Valickis—Ecoli cleans up quickly, nitrates take longer. Once the
source contaminant is removed, quality improves.
Q. Allen Spicer—This is all politics. The STP in Port Burwell is operating at
approximately 70%.,will there be any additional capacity left after
expansion?
A. Andy Valickis—The proposed expansion is based on Ministry guidelines
and current population and there is estimated there will be about 33%
available for growth.
Q. Allen Spicer—When we experience storms there is overflow. What about
that?
A. Andy Valickis—The design uses the latest techniques. This is not to be a
storm/sanitary sewer combination.
Q. Bob Clement—People do not tend to be as concerned when it comes to
health problems. Council, don't throw an 80% grant away.
Q. Leo Pacquett—Is the decision to go ahead already made?
A. Andy Valickis—No. Council must make a decision in the next few
weeks. Return the comment sheets, whether in favour or against.
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6. Summary—Bob Vallee
Bob Vallee thanked everyone for attending and participating in the question
period. Everyone was reminded that additional comments in writing, both
negative and positive must be submitted to the Municipal office by noon February
1, 1999.
7. Adjournment
The meeting adjourned at 9:30 p.m.
1VIAYC CLERK
Date approved: h